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And it's good to be back! I've been very busy with RL these past 2 months, with my master's degree taking most of my time. A lot has a changed on Pokerstars lately, and that meant some good news and bad news for me personally.
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Permalink Reply by Pokerpingu on March 1, 2012 at 9:05pm 8/6s? And what are the changes? They didn't change anything specifically for shortstackers right? GL with the pokers!!!
Permalink Reply by Zapatos80 on March 1, 2012 at 9:09pm http://www.pokernewsdaily.com/pokerstars-announced-vip-program-and-...
8/6 referring to total nits 8VPIP, 6PFR. Basically with weighted contributed, nits and shortstackers barely get any VPPs since the amount of VPPs you get depends on what you contributed to the pot.
Permalink Reply by Pokerpingu on March 1, 2012 at 11:09pm 8/6 ssers cant beat the games ever anyway? or?
Permalink Reply by Zapatos80 on March 2, 2012 at 3:50am Not sure what you mean? Basically, a majority of these players were playing ultra-tight and/or shortstacking because they didn't know how to play "real" full-stacked poker. They had very marginal (or losing) winrates, and made most of their profits from VPPs. The thing is, they were really leeching other people's rakeback since the old system rewarded VPPs equally among all people who were dealt a hand.
Now that you only get VPPs proportionally to what you put in the pot, these players are now getting a ridiculously low VPP/hand. So even though their "normal" winrate hasn't changed, their profits took a huge hit since many of those are now making 60-80% less VPPs than before. Coupled with a very marginal/small losing winrate, these players now make basically no $/hour. As a result, getting rid of those leechers improves game quality significantly.
Permalink Reply by Pokerpingu on March 2, 2012 at 10:13pm 8/6 shortstackers will even loose more than a 8/6 fullstacker i think? 8/6 is insanely tight... ssers are often way more loose since they shove way more. Init?
Permalink Reply by Zapatos80 on March 2, 2012 at 10:26pm Most 8/6 play fullstack since their strategy is pretty much overpair/setmine only. Most shortstackers play a 40bb game and essentially force a "preflop all-in" strategy in a lot of hands. Not only were they syphoning a lot of other player's rakeback, they also profited from fullstackers making each other fold in later streets in cases where they would go all-in preflop or on the flop. Getting rid of the majority of those players will make the games much more healthier.
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